Never Meet Your Heroes

Conversations with artists about their work, inspiration and their heroes.


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Oct 21st, 2017 by nevermeetyourheroes at 2:13 pm

Our first episode of this podcast is with Raul Pizarro. We discuss goddesses, his art series Songs for a Deaf God and Theatro Del Mundo, Simone Gad, Gronk, Kara Walker, Björk, Iris DeMent and more. Find his art at

Oct 22nd, 2017 by nevermeetyourheroes at 7:33 pm

Meet artist Angel Villanueva who discusses his early life in Baja California, his career as a painter and photographer, being an educator, fascination with paintings, science fiction films and more. Find his work at

Oct 31st, 2017 by nevermeetyourheroes at 8:25 pm

In this conversation with Trebor Healey, he recalls his days in the San Francisco poetry scene, coming to Los Angeles to work on writing fiction, his affinity for fauns and Pan, the Radical Faeries, Catholicism, his mentors Mark Thompson and Felice Picano, how to write your real life into fictional characters, traveling in South America, our rants about Argentina, safe sex, the Los Angeles Public Library, and my rambling about director James Whale. Find more about Trebor at

Nov 8th, 2017 by nevermeetyourheroes at 2:02 am

Ian MacKinnon talks to me about what lead him to Los Angeles, discovering performance art and the influence of mentor Tim Miller, the gay liberation, the performance space Highways in Santa Monica, his fetish for gay history, Karl Heinrich Ulrichs and Edward Carpenter, Akbar and the gentrification of Silver Lake, his collaborators Travis Wood, David LeBarron, Steven Reigns and Robert Patrick, also, his current inspirations Martin Matamoros, Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith and more. Find out about Planet Queer in Los Angeles at

Nov 11th, 2017 by nevermeetyourheroes at 10:54 am

Stephen Van Dyck talks about his early life in New Mexico, childhood fascination with mapping cities, his early interest in writing and piano, his teenage years in a band and meeting men online, we discuss the ontology of happiness, LA Road Concerts and the urban sprawl of Los Angeles, his forthcoming book People I’ve Met from the Internet, dating before Grindr, recollections of North Carolina and our symposium on Tori Amos, Shirley Manson, Bridget Bardot and Eurythmics. Find out more about this LA Road Concerts

Nov 16th, 2017 by nevermeetyourheroes at 9:38 pm

The Los Angeles Road Concerts took place Saturday, November 11, 2017 on National and Washington in Culver City. For this Road Concert, I spoke briefly with 8 artists about their work. For more information on their project check out or on the Never Meet Your Heroes podcast website

00:02:14 SAFE TEA by 23-24-25
Ang Wilson
Jen Bruce
Chelsea Rector


00:06:26 MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Margie Schnibbe


00:11:18 HUMAN INTERACTIONS 5 CENTS Faith Purvey

00:14:01 BUMPY RIDE, MELTING INSIDE Elizabeth Folk Mark Bobro

00:19:43 SOLARSONIC STREAMING Élisa Leclaire Willpower Lifeforce Naseem Marukami

00:20:58 RUSSIAN THIZDANCE Christopher Wawrinofsky